Cinnamon Desktop Review | LAS | s21e08

Cinnamon Desktop Review | LAS | s21e08

Cinnamon Desktop has swooped in to save us from these new-fangled fancy-schmancy desktops, but are we wearing Kryptonite underwear? Tune in to find out!

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Then – Syncing your iPod with Linux has never been easier, and so much more!

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Despite valiant attempts in making the iPhone music compatible with distros such as Ubuntu (or Linux distros in general), libimobiledevice has met with limited success in music syncing. Worse yet, Ubuntu One music sync isn’t quite stable enough to use on a regular basis yet. Therefore during the segment I made two very different recommendations – either buy an Android phone (best). Of if you’re in a contract like I am, consider buying a great MP3 player such as one from iRiver or Sandisk. If however, you want an MP3 player that is in fact, using Apple tech. Then I’d suggest you head over to eBay and look for this query: “ipod a1199”. Buy it at auction, you can get this for a great price.

So how does one make this work? If you remember from the segment, I recommend using Gparted to make sure the iPod is completely wiped. But follow these directions to make sure you don’t delete something needed, like a hidden partition.

1) Plugin the iPod to your computer, close any software or dialogs that appear.
2) Assuming you have gparted already installed, run the program.
3) Don’t worry about deleting your active partitions, as they will be locked. But if you run a dual-boot PC, be mindful before deleting anything.
4) Look to the upper right, select the /dev/ pull down menu. You will be selecting the dev device with the least amount of space. In my case, it was 1.89 GiB.
5) You will see either two or three partitions available, one of them is FAT32. Ignoring the others, select the FAT32 partition.
6) With the FAT32 partition right clicked and selected, choose unmount. This frees up the partition for changes.
7) Right click the partition again, and select format to> FAT32.
8) Click the apply button - aka the green checkmark at the top of the menu. Then click apply.
9) Disconnect the iPod, then allow the iPod to reboot itself. When completed, it will appear with a dialog asking you to choose your default language.
10) Now plug the iPod back into the PC.
11) Choose to open the iPod with Banshee.
12) On the bottom left, you will see the device has appeared. As per the segment, you can right click it and give it a better name if you like.
13) Left clicking on the device, the main screen dialog presents you with the option of setting up how the sync preferences work. 
I recommend keeping things set to manual. This simply means the checkbox for Sync when first plugged in, remains unchecked.
14) Select the music sync preference, then choose one of the following:

Sync from entire library – if you want all songs synced. This most likely, will not include existing playlists.


Sync from “some playlist name” – this will include only the music from the selected playlist.

With the option selected, look to the upper right, then click on Sync. During this process, don’t disconnect.

Problem solving:

“Wow Matt, that was awesome! I just hosed my iPod and it’s not disconnecting! It’s frozen at 23%. ”


Don’t worry, just unplug it and use Gparted to reset the iPod as described above. No harm no foul.

Remember, I recommend using a Linux friendly device like an Android phone or even better, one of the Sandisk/iRiver devices above. They offer less frustration with Apple specific databases. But using an older iPod nano like this is a cheaper alternative.

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19 Responses to “Cinnamon Desktop Review | LAS | s21e08”

  1. Matt Hartley Says:

    Tech Segments:

    All tech segments are from user submitted questions. So if you want something new in the tech segments? Then DO something about it and post here.

    There have already been a number of great ideas suggested. Those ideas we can use for the show, will be added to the queue.

    Heads up!!
    We have *one more* in the list (for the 16th) before we begin pulling fresh ideas from the queue, however all suggestions will be considered. Remember, the topics come from YOU, not me. ;)


  2. Gentoo4Life Says:

    Thank you, Lunduke, for saying what needed to be said.  I’ve been asking this same question about Cinnamon (and other projects, for that matter): why was Cinnamon created?  There is XFCE, MATE, the Gnome Fallback, Gnome Shell with various extensions…there is literally not one good reason anyone can give for yet another desktop environment being created, especially one that is simply rehashing that same, old, tired Gnome-2 look.  It’s like the Linux Mint team is purposely going backwards while the rest of the Linux community is going forward.

  3. MHazell Says:

    @ChrisLAS:disqus  Are you going to try the new Disqus 2012?

  4. King Says:

    You guys really need to do an Xfce review… it has been long overdue.

  5. Jesse Gunne Says:

    Thank you, Chris, for actually reviewing what it’s like to actually use Cinnamon. Bryan kept asking why the Mint team didn’t just use extensions to create their UI… except that they did. It was called MGSE and they fought with it for months trying to reach their goals. So, I think the Mint guys know as well as anyone exactly how “easy” Gnome Shell is to configure. Muffin and Cinnamon let them develop their user experience at their own pace using the new toolkit and not waste time rebuilding their UI each time someone reinvents the wheel upstream. It’s a classic paradigm built with current tools that gives Linux Mint more of an identity.

  6. Ben David Says:

    In the after show discussion, someone took exception to stating that he S/TOVL F-35 needed long runways on overseas deployments.  I got the following email from Carlo explaining why the F-35 needs long runways and cannot use VTOL effectively coz the F-35 is:

    “grossly overweight, also small wing, underpowered, and aft placed
    main undercarriage do not help. He should read up on the landing
    speeds for the three variants, they are in the class of the Thud
    and Crusader.”

  7. Ashish Kansara Says:

    Just a little suggestion/request: can you make the torrent file names a bit more readable? Right now all it reads is linuxactionshowep208.

  8. georgezilla Says:

    When talking about the Thud during Viet Nam, the saying was …

    With a big enough engine you can even make a brick fly.

    And if you think that the Thud was NOT a good plane? Think about all of the MIGS that no longer exist, because the Thud drivers shot them down.

  9. Tor Inge Røttum Says:

    You should really do the XFCE review, especially since 4.10 just have been released. Running 4.10 now, and I gotta say I love it. 

  10. Melroy van den Berg Says:

    Den Bosch Train-station ftw :D (background image)

  11. Zek The Penguin Says:

    The desktop environment that I’ve been experimenting with lately that I’d love to get your take on is Enlightenment E17. I’m using that on my Linux Mint laptop right now and the process has been pretty enjoyable.

  12. Guest Says:

    It’s pronounced MAH-TAY. As in Yerba Mate, the tea. Pronunciation isn’t a huge deal, but it’s nice to respect the developers by pronouncing their product the way that they intended.

    Pronunciation info comes from this page:

  13. Thomas Wright Says:

    Did you guys know that the Avengers FX were made on Linux?

  14. Erik Imes Says:

     I am sure you have tried it…but I really like Bodhi

  15. Theorysavage Says:

    I don’t understand the negativity about cinnamon. After spending the past year wishing for my Gnome2 back, Cinnamon was like a dream come true. I use Unity right now because it’s finally sort of usable, but am so glad that I’ve got the XFCE/Cinnamon alternatives.

  16. David Says:

    Agreed. Cinnamon makes sense, and seems like a good compromise between the obtuseness of Unity, and the minimalist XFCE/LXDE. I’ve got LXDE on a laptop, and it’s perfect for that. I’ve got Cinnamon on the Desktop, because it’s simple but easy to work with. Yes GNOME3 can do a lot, but it’s not exactly user friendly out of the box. People have asked me if they can get a Desktop like Cinnamon on their PC, they’ve yet to ask that about Unity or Gnome3.

  17. Michael Freeman Says:

    I’ll have to disagree with you, Brian. Here’s the thing about Cinnamon: Mint tried to just extend Gnome-Shell with a package of extensions, like you suggest (called MGSE), but they could get it only part-way to the interface they wanted, and it made Gnome-Shell incredibly slow and unstable. Cinnamon is an attempt to make it work the way they want it to, while being faster and more stable than just using extensions. Yes, Cinnamon is still wanting in the stability department, but it’s much better than MGSE.

  18. Zek The Penguin Says:

     Bodhi is awesome. I’m more of a MacPup fan for my e17 computing, but really I’ve enjoyed e17 just about every time I’ve used it. I know many in the LAS crowd is more into function and performance over looks, but e17 is undeniably a pretty desktop environment!

  19. Exeleration-G Says:

    Had ik ook opgemerkt! Een ‘wauw’-reactie ontstond.

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