Perfect World Disappoints | STOked 124

Perfect World Disappoints | STOked 124

Recent events have us concerned with what appears to be Perfect World’s lack of respect for the Star Trek IP, plus why we fear changes are taking place at Cryptic that will hurt the community.

Plus: We lighten things up with a great Foundry mission, and in Talk Trek we share some of our favorite Jem’Hadar episodes in Star Trek.

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New Segment: Talk Trek

Hippocratic Oath
- Early worf episode
- 4:30 the shuttle is hit with an energy surge and down they go
- 38:00 mark O’brian: “Your coming with me” and shoots Julians equipment

Call to Arms 5×26
- There is an awesome Sisko moment 19:00 he explained that his entire chat with Weyoun was just establish a false sense of security.

- don’t ever ever ever run program Sisko 197

Sacrifice of Angels 6×06
- The visuals are really kicked up this episode. New CGI use for the battles, requires splitting the CGI work out between two production houses.

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  • Oddeye

    Not very smart are you.  

  • Oddeye

    If the truth is negative in objective context, perhaps you should be wondering WHY it’s not a cheerleader fest of self affirming bullshit and lies, and is instead focusing on issues that matter.

  • Oddeye

    Cryptic needs to fail utterly as a company, its’ developers blacklisted forever and condemned to never, ever work again in this industry. Their track record is a disaster, their pathetic and feeble mishandling of one of the most important and iconic IPs of the modern age.  There IS NO feedback massive or negative enough that will get their attention.  They are too far gone.  The recent revelation of how much money they rake in from the stupid and the lockboxes they open informs their plans for the future of the IP.  

    While the stupid and the apologists will find some ridiculous reason to defend this company, this revelation makes obvious what’s coming.  This game doesn’t have anything at all to do with the IP, it’s a shameless and (IMO blasphemous) degradation of the IP into a position where it has become unclean.

  • WereWolf359

    Love me some STOked, but I have to say that this crew complaining about immersion breaks is a bit of hyperbole.  I’ve seen some of your ship names, and some of the toons that you run around with.  Immersion doesn’t exist in this game except for the RP groups who maintain it internally (another segment you might focus on in future shows if you need filler).  Midget aliens, giant aliens. Redonkulous ship names all across the sectors.  Adding Ferengi ships and Caitian ships and giving Starfleet officers the option for disruptors on their ships, etc. are all examples of how immersion was tossed overboard at the start.  

  • Oddeye

    I’m glad you guys are making a lot of the statements that need to be made.  You need to link this episode all over the internet.  We need to get ST OUT OF CRYPTIC’S HANDS.

  • Wdssa

    Great show as always. Please loose the nodding dog guy in the background who adds nothing at all?

  • Wdssa

    They elininated greed in the UFP and nowgreed will kill the continuation of the prime universe. Way to go. I’m not sure PW are solely to blame, Cryptic have been dissapointing from the day 1 launch. I play this game solely because it istar Trek, but I think i’m kidding myself really.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/J73RF4CPTYQWQLGCHUUS7NOOVA Quarlo

    Its interesting that I watch this episode where you worry about season 6 minutes after reading an article about Season 6 starbases.

  • http://twitter.com/GHMike GHMike

    Ultimately what successful game companies have to realize ( and Cryptic I think forgot this long ago in City of Heroes.) is that a successful game is not a sole creation of the developers. every game that has legs and has thrived is a co creation of those who make it ( Devs) and those who play in it. Both are equally responsible for creating the dynamic world and thus dictate if it will thrive. 

    Cryptic years ago used to be very responsive to players suggestions. There is a definite line of demarcation that occurred with the development of City of Villans and “Enhancement diversification” 

    Note to Cryptic. Your game is becoming less fun to play. I keep a fully equipped shuttle ready to go in my shuttle bay and will never run the Vault event. WHY? because I play games to relax. I play games on my time not yours. Additionally I do not “tour the universe” or “officer reports” nor will i do the mirror universe and or any other stuped gated event…  because I want to do what I want, when I want. 

  • SciFiGuy

    That kind of detail should have been included as a caveat because my first thought during the criticism was exactly that. 

    From the posts on the STO forums, it seems to have been a fair bit of others who got that impression as well, might be a good comment to add next week. 

  • Admiraljoy

    Perfect World only cares about the cash, nothing else. Maybe STOked should get someone from PW on the show, not Branflakes, but someone else who maybe able to shed some light on the subject. That will never happen, but a word from PW could help settle this.

    Also, saw the new post on STO regarding fleet starbases, looks great.

    Great show as always, can’t wait for future interviews with the DEVs, if that ever happens again.

  • http://worldmaker.net Max “WorldMaker” Battcher

    On the Kzinti: This should have been more obvious from the Memory Alpha page you showed, but they are from (the grand master) Larry Niven’s “Known Space” cosmology and effectively “loaned” to the Star Trek animated series. It seems entirely plausible that CBS (and its predecessors) never had rights to the Kzinti outside of Niven’s animated episodes, and who knows what Niven thinks of Star Trek using the Kzinti today, particularly without his hand at the tiller as writer and particularly for a canon-but-not-canon videogame.

    I can give Cryptic the benefit of the doubt on not being able to get the license to the Kzinti.

  • http://twitter.com/seekul Luke Es | sE ekuL

    I see someone else corrected Mav on the lockbox key prices (the first 250 listings are under 1.5M).
    They are a horrible EC return on a 90-100 C-point investment.
    The same spent on dilithium will get you over 2M worth of Unreplicatables at this moment.
    So if you really want to, you can get 2-for-1 keys. ;)

  • Phackett456

    You tell em’ Chris. Best damn episode in awhile. Get on the offensive.

  • Unverified420

    I dunno if STO is dying but it sure does seem like a wounded animal as of late.  There are only so many times you can run the same STFs over and over again…

  • Akaar

    I have the same problem. Last weeks wont play and this eeks stoped at 25min, luckly I ran it in FF mode at 2x speed (it was like watching Alvin and the Chipmunks) it went back to normal at 36 min. I’m in Arizona.

  • Unverified420

    Where can I find the rankings for the Foundry Files?

  • Omega2550

    I think that cryptic had a basic idea of sto to begin with.  But becasue of time limitations they had to pick and chose.

     Now if they had gone to CBS and said we need more time to create the basic structure of STO as an MMO.

    And shown what they had working and planned for the future. CBS might have given them the time they need.

    But we the fan base also have to take responce ablitiy for some of this as well.

    About a 1/3rd of players ran through what should have been about 4 to 6 months of content in a week.

    We the player base of STO go through content. Like gamers go through a 12 pack of MT. DEW 

     STO came out about 3 years too early.

     What we have today should really beta compared to what STO should be as full scale  MMO .

    CBS & PW & Cryptic need to have a summit and plan out the future of STO. Once and for all.

    Before we are all sick and tried of this mmo and are left to wonder what could have been.

    While we play SWTOR, Super Hero Squad or some other mmo 

  • Doug3575

    Great episode Chris and Mav! Spot on comments about Perfect World and the lack of devs on the forum. Loving the new talk trek segment, keep it coming:)

  • http://www.facebook.com/ricardo.reeves.1 Ricardo Reeves

    Thank you. It worked on the HD Download:)
    Thank you for your show. I´ve been watching it since release.

  • http://twitter.com/rtn5000 Rob Nemirovsky

    Thanks again for saying what everyone is thinking….at this rate STOked will never make the front page of STO.com again :P

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Sawyer/701393798 Michael Sawyer

    “This show has more viewers than the game has players”

    OOOOOOOOOOOOO, snap!

  • SciFiGuy

    PWE well timed the release of the Season 6 Dev Blog so the old “Pro-Cryptic vs Anti-Cryptic” fights can begin again.

    From my pov, it seems like all of this kinds of stuff is solely to distract the playerbase from the real issues by having them fight amongst themselves. 

  • IvanKautter

    I feel like your show is getting into familiar territory as regards podcasts based on Star Trek games.  I think appealing to Star Trek fandom and discussing favorite episodes and such is a common misstep.  

    I’d prefer to see what you are currently doing with TORked and concentrate on graphics, guides, and things players can use, rather than frustration, criticism, and negativity.  While I think it certainly is unfortunate that you feel shut out by Cryptic, I don’t think that taking it personally, which clearly you are, is a good way of dealing with things.You’ve built a viewership and I understand that you’d like to keep it, but I certainly will feel less inclined to watch the show when it ends up discussing more of the meta-game than the game itself.  I do agree with many of your assertions; however, that doesn’t necessarily translate into me wanting to watch the show.The Foundry files seems like the best thing you are doing.  I’d focus more on that to the exclusion of other matters such as these public floggings of Cryptic and PWE. 

  • Counselorphoenix

    Wow, that’s a fantastic Talk Trek intro. Cuddo’s to the designer!

  • Ian

    I started watching STOked before I started playing STO. I am now a 400 day Veteran and for the first time considering to not renew my sub due to all the PW BS.

  • GeeMan

    I agree completely with Chris and Mav.

    Shame STOed is closing, it the only STO based podcast worth listening to. I totally understand why it’s closing, what’s the point having a 1st class video podcast on a 4th rate computer game. The game is becoming a gamblers dream. Gamble if you get Elite STF stuff, gamble if the doff system creates the very rare Reman equipment. Gamble with the locked boxes. The locked boxes is driving me mad! Short trip may might say.  I throw every one away, but still if I’m playing the game and there hasn’t been a drop I think “Where’s the locked box?”

    Looks like I’ll have to start listening to TORked, I don’t see me playing STO very much long. Good luck Chris on your other shows, not that you need it.

  • Oldman

    Will call in now. The current patch on tribble will gated plus have a new currency for each event.

  • Commander88

    Only problem with that is you’d need roughly $10million or so to buy the license that Cryptic has from them (so you can also pay CBS its cut) while you keep the servers on so the game runs.

    Then, you’d need about $50 million to pay PW back for buying not only STO, but also CO and the other Cryptic games, along with Atari’s debt from launching MMOs…then you should be in the clear.

    Not that I’m excusing lockboxes at all…but you can see now how PW planned on making money back for their investment, and the F2P launch.

  • Commander88

    Have to agree with you on the ship names, etc.

    I’m really surprised at some of the things people are allowed to use as names in this game, given the IP/copywrights that CBS has; if you look at other MMOs (say CoH), they will “Generic345345346″ your toon if you start infringing on other supers names…but here you get 4700 “Enterprize”s and other pretty R/X rated names for ships and characters.

    Not calling out JF on their names; it’s just something you notice regardless of any Fleet affiliation or whatnot all across the game.

  • Commander88

    So, did you get the survey that was e-mailed out? I did get it and responded…and their servers were “down” and couldn’t take my reply.
    I had to finally go to the main website to submit it, but it took some doing. If I wasn’t so against the stupid lockbox lottery I wouldn’t have bothered ordinarily.

    Did anyone else get the survey from a few weeks ago?

  • Derricochrista

    id love to see you guys show guides to for stf and how to get gear like the m.a.c.o. uniforms step by step instruction guides for us players who are having trouble understanding . also guides for duty officers to better our game play … that is if you can thanks for doing such a great job keeping us informed about sto

  • WarMonkey

    I fear for STO =(

  • Terra Ardele

    Chris kind of needs to be a little less overbearing in conversation!

  • Terra Ardele

    It’s the elephant in the room but I completely agree, and it’s not just STO that’s having trouble with Chinese buyouts (League of Legends has suffered under Tencent’s jurisdiction as well). There’s so much that’s fundamentally wrong with these Chinese megafirms that I wouldn’t know where to start:

    * Sheer distance, communication is more difficult; if it exists at all, it’s only online; bureaucratic confusion due to international laws, layers of management;
    * Language barrier;* Chinese corps completely disinterested in their games and have zero love for the IPs or the communities (PW even lets you do those spammy internet surveys to grind for generic “Zen points”)
    * Chinese side is 110% interested in short term profit by any means possible, they see STO as a portfolio investment to be squeezed when plump and dumped when dry.

    I could go on but it’s pretty painful so whatevs. I don’t care how un-PC it is, it’s just the truth.

  • gk007

    Yep, add me to list of people who watch the show, but don’t play.  I have a lifetime sub, but haven’t logged in since the Season 5 release…  It’s a pretty depressing state for the game to be in :( .

  • Mrcuddles_690

    You finally admit this game sucks. I love it. I value honesty and its what I loved about Jeremy. He was up front and to the point. Now if only you will cover pvp equally with everything else in your show for as long as you continue covering the game YOU will have earned my respect again as a member of your audience who you almost lost. Thank you for being honest, up front, and continuing to show display your passion for the game. The state of this game is one that sucks but that is still around because we all love STAR TREK. NOT CRYPTIC STUDIOS. Thank you.

  • J-Mac

    Chris,
    When will you stop blaming everyone else and finally assign some blame to Cryptic?