Made in America | Unfilter 5

Made in America | Unfilter 5

Is Prison Labor a modern day for-profit type of slavery? Or is it responsible economics responding to market pressure to keep prices low, and to make those goods at home?

Plus new details on the number of Drone bases operational on US soil, an update on the situation in Spain, and the details of a leaked trade agreement from the Obama administration that gives multinational corporations the ability to bypass a country’s laws.

Then we wrap with a few closing thoughts, and your feedback!

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Show Notes:

ACT ONE: News

ACT TWO: Prison Labor

ACT THREE: Feedback and Corrections

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  • Ubiquity

    China has prison labor as well. US prison labor is cheaper than average factory labor in China. Factor in inflation, unemployment, increasing crime, an increasing police state with increasing surveillance to find more criminals and this becomes the new form of slavery.

    Welcome to the new world order.

  • DefinitelyNotAConservative

    What if CNN is accurately reporting that the drone crashed during a “routine training exercise”? What if they are, for once, making a point of not being alarmist? If that’s the case, who’s dinging you for scaremongering?

    Can you prove your interpretation of events is correct? Or are you just going on CNN’s report and the assumption that they are lying? I think I know the answer, because I happen to know that you have no journalists on your team.

    CNN’s account is very plausible. Anything the military uses, you can bet they have them on US soil and train with them on US soil. Did you know the military keeps guns on US soil and trains with them on US soil? If you’ve ever been near a military base, there’s a good chance you heard them firing guns! BE AFRAID because they’re clearly training for an assault on America and have been training for it for centuries so you know it’s gunna be a bloodbath! 

    I also wouldn’t be surprised if drones regularly crashed during these training exercises because I bet they simulate lag. Did you know that drones flown in, for example, Pakistan are piloted from the United States over a series of phone and satellite links and the pilots must compensate for about 2 seconds of lag?

    CNN is a terrible network by the way. 24 hour news channels are ruining people’s heads, but what makes you, as a tertiary source, think you are better than them, your secondary source? Be honest. Is it the song of the week? Because CNN doesn’t do a song of the week. On the other hand, they do pay reporters and do actual research, instead of cobbling together theories from other sources.

    By the way, bankers trying to enslave the world? That’s Alex Jones material. That’s probably why you have some dumbshit commenting about the new world order on this page.

  • Guest

    About the Tor story:
    1) A “hidden service” is what Tor calls the .onion domains. There is no “reference” or “meme” behind this. https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-hidden-service
    2) “Tor works with the FBI to help them”: Is there any source on this? I highly doubt that they do, or even have any means to do such a thing.
    3) “The US government funds part of the development of Tor”: This is not true anymore. This is an often-quoted erroneous statement based on the fact that Tor originally was created by the US Navy. See the “Inception” paragraph on https://www.torproject.org/about/overview.html.en#inception ; nowadays, Tor is not funded by them anymore. You can see all their sponsors on this page: https://www.torproject.org/about/sponsors.html.en and you will see that the US Navy (“Naval Research Laboratory” on the page) is not sponsoring them anymore.

  • Guest

    Sorry guys, but the military drone discussion was very uneducated. I would look into what Pax river is to start.

  • Shelbycruver

     I will agree, your understanding of how drones, the military, and training operates is lacking. You are not the first podcast I have heard to ask why the Navy has drones. You do know the Navy have many aircraft, ever heard of an aircraft carrier? That is a naval ship full of navy operated plans.

  • Cozzyb

    I found the first part of this show a little sad, it seemed a little under researched, firstly don’t use clips from Mr Farrage, he is a member of a party (leader) (UKIP) that is against the EURO and the UK being part of the EU etc, so he is bias. Also he is a fool and a racist, again part of being part of UKIP.

    But I was more sighing at the comments of us in Europe bringing you Yanks down, the US debt is amazingly high compared to Europe, you are not a company making money, http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

    The US currently has a deficit of a trillion dollars a year, it seems bizarre to discuss us effecting the US economy, when you are just as screwed, if not more.

  • Genuine

    i agree with you cozzy i’m from UK, England and Farrage is anti Europe i would’t go as fare as saying he a racist but he is a fool and is very bias to Europa and many more things he on pare with the sort of things Fox News says in the USA

    What should have happened with greece and spain was them leaving the euro coinage (not Europe) so there more like the UK so they can set there own interest rates and so on and get there economy back on track.

  • David Didßun

    Oy vey…

    Preface: Chris, I’ve got the utmost respect for what you are doing with JB and I’m thankful for the hard work you’re putting into these shows. LAS, TechSNAP and even the Faux Show have become staples in my media diet. Coder Radio has had a very promising start, too…

    Unfilter however, I’ll probably skip in the future.

    I don’t want to generalize, but for me personally, the latest episode has been so bad, that I actually stopped listening after about 20 minutes or so.

    So without further ado, I’ll cut to the two main reasons that rub me wrong with Unfilter:

    1. The show feels like a watered down version of “No Agenda”, with the structure of “This American Life”…. without getting even in the vicinity of those programs, quality wise.

    I’m not implying or suggesting that you guys are straight up ripping off No Agenda, but oh boy. Listening to No Agenda #417 (released June 14th) and Unfilter #5 (released June 16th) afterwards, I was absolutely STUNNED by the similarity of the two shows. Of course, both shows have a similar scope, so it’s not surprising that there’s some overlay, but those two shows were so similar (down to the specific sound clips) that it’s hard to convince myself that this is just a coincident.

    But it’s not only the content, the whole lay-out of the show (down to details like the use of the reception bell) appears to be more than a little inspired by No Agenda, with the addition of the act-structure known from This American Life.

    Which leads to:

    2. Quality. All the superficial issues aside, if you want to compete in this space, you gotta bring your best. Because the bar raised by some of the established shows is quite high.

    LAS and TechSNAP are among the best in their field. They’re so good, they actually SET the bar.

    Ultimately, this is where Unfilter falls short for me. I could easily overlook the similarities to other programming – you don’t always have to reinvent the wheel – if Unfilter was up to these quality standards.

    As others already pointed out, there are quite some factual errors. Many of the topics appear to be not as well researched as they could be and the discussions among the hosts often feel shallow at best.

    ————————————-

    Now this is quite some critique and again, please don’t take any of this personally. The reason, why I’m so passionate with the critique, is rather simple:

    I really want you guys to succeed! :) Take it as an incentive to raise the bar. The potential IS there.

    Regards,

    David   

  • Sean Newboy

    A lot of interesting information guys.

    As for drones, it should be noted that although most of the us drone locations would be training practice locations. Currently the court cases/congressional laws concerning use drones for law enforcement have not been finalized.

  • Guest

    I agree wasn’t sub prime the cause in the market failure that has affected the global economy?

  • Ron Paul

    I suppose not all lawyers are bad, especially this one:
    http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/local/austin/defense-attorney-attacks-justice-system

  • http://profiles.google.com/c.a.g.gibbs Christopher Gibbs

    As a proud European citizen, I was sad to see your normally effective decrypting of complex issues was sorely lacking on the issue of the Euro.

    There was no mention, for example. of the fact that countries with currencies pegged to the Euro who suffered terribly when the American “sub-prime” crisis crossed the pond (I’m thinking of Latvia and its neighbours in particular) are now growing faster than any other EU country and are a year or two from the Euro membership they so desperately desire. No mention either, of the fact that EU membership remains an attractive prospect for many countries in the region. Croatia is joining next year and Serbia remains firmly on track for eventual membership. I, for one am very excited to see an influx of new citizens – and to share the rights and privileges of EU citizenship with them.

    Also, you assumed that greater integration and the weakening of the nation-state is somehow a negative – whilst completely ignoring the fact that these are not unfortunate side-effects of the European project, but are in fact its principle goals! While it is true that many Europeans don’t like this trend – when push comes to shove (as we’ve just seen in the Greek elections) people do vote for greater integration, rather than the perceived benefits of leaving the Eurozone. Don’t forget that Ireland voted overwhelmingly “For” in a constitutional referendum allowing ECB oversight of their budgets.

    What you fail to grasp, and I can’t blame you, considering the bias in the media, and the overall misunderstanding of the EU that is endemic amongst those who have not studied it in depth over a period of years – is that it is a one-way racketing mechanism. The entire structure of the Union is built so that the only solution to any crisis is “more Europe”. No one will leave the Eurozone, no one will leave the EU – they will instead integrate further within it. What we are seeing is not the end of independent European nation-states, but the painful birth of a new European federation.

  • https://cloud.barrenfrozenwasteland.com/ Marxjohnson

    As a UK listener, hearing the phrase “Nigel Farrage is awesome” made me laugh.  I suggest you read up on UKIP (the party he is a leader of) – their manifesto reads like a collection of xenophobic tabloid headlines.

  • JustMe

    I’m not trying to be anti-American or anything like that. I just want to put this idea out there.

    Maybe the American populous should rethink their whole stance on outsourcing. There is no reason to think that the American workforce is more valuable or deserves more for the same work than the workforce in some third world country. The attitude that one would rather remain unemployed than take a job picking apples is absurd. If you’re not willing to do a job and get paid for it, then let someone else who is do it. Else, do it for the same wage. Maybe it will help you make a wiser decision the next time you go to the polls. Because however much us non-Americans dislike like it, your elections affect us more than we like.

  • Galdere

    Chris, sorry but I couldn’t watch this episode, as you started off with Nigel Farage and praised him. You should have asked some of your UK contacts before doing that, as has been said here already more than once, he is a single agenda nutcase. I don’t like our prime minister, but I agree when he said that Farage runs a “party full of fruitcakes and closet racists”. They have no real support except as a protest vote in euro elections. Farrage was beaten by a man in a flipper outfit in the last national election. You really need to do your research better than hold up this guy as a font of truth, becuase he is poison and a joke in this country due to his lack of reasoning and policy.

  • Genuine

    i think it was the lehman brothers bank that had to go into liquidation that original cased market to crash and it was just a domino effect ever since

  • Galdere

    Yeah, you’re both right. Most commentators here have probably seen them, but I’d recommend the oscar winning documentary “Inside Job” and the HBO dramatisation “Too Big To Fail” to give some background on understanding the beginnings of the global financial crisis.

  • Forrest Guyton

    I have always loved Jupiter Brodcasting, but  unfilter is, as others have already said, under-reserched. Unfilter is  an incredible dissapiontment. I love LAS but I cannot continue to watch this show if next weeks epesode is so inacurate you have tried, but unfilter is not what it should have been.

  • Zikalify

    Nigel Farage! is AMAZING nuff said. UKIP isn’t single issue, they are gaining support in the UK in leaps and bounds because we do NOT want to be dragged down with the EURO.

  • http://zoxir86.myopenid.com/ Guest

    First of all I would like to say that not everything about the eurozone is a bad idea. I also believe in a more federalized Europe but I do believe that what they are trying to do now is terrible, from a federation of 27 equal members it is violently turning into the hegemony of 1 maybe 2 countries. I would also like to clarify that people in greece did not vote for greater integration. A massive media campaign of scare tactics never used before in a free country took place here. I can provide you quotes from members of the winning party saying that if the opposition won 200 million immigrants will flood greece or the banks will shut down the next day. All this backed from the media they control. As a result conservatives won but the only because people over 65 and people with low or no education voted for them in all other categories they were beaten by the opposition.

    I do believe that at some point there will be countries thrown out of the Eurozone Greece or Spain being the first one to be thrown out. After that everything is possible even Germany leaving the eurozone voluntarily. And we brought this to ourselves by voting for incompetent and stupid leaders (Merkel/Sarkozy) to criminals (Berlusconi). Anyway we’ll see how it’ll go but I can tell that Europe in 2 years from now will be totally different from Europe today

  • Andrew

    The only good thing about UKIP is that they’re not the BNP. Farage is a protest vote that backfired, badly.