No theora video?

Theora failed to encode this episode, I'll try to re-post in a bit though.

-Chris

KDE4 spanks Gnome

At the end it still says BrianLAS instead of BrianLanduke. There are many broken links like that also...
Great episode, keep up the good work!!

Soooooooo... no more linux action show?

Making room for OS2 action show perhaps?

Uhm. The RSS feed for Linux Action show does not work - probably because it is now The Computer Action Show.

Can you provide a RSS link :D

Which feed are you using? All the regular feeds should be working dandy! I've made no changes yet.

-Chris

Where are the show notes? I came hoping to find information about what you talked about and there's nothing here. Where can I find out what the brand of your HD cage is? Or specs and details on the computer you built for $1700?

Can you provide show notes of some sort? Or am I just blind and stupid and can't find them?

Warnock was one of the Xerox PARC guys who started PostScript there and finished it at Adobe which he founded. So they created the PDF format. They also marketed Illustrator which went up against Aldus FreeHand as the graphics production tool for type + vector image work in the 80s. It is is impossible to think of the desktop publishing revolution of the late 80s without Apple and Adobe.

Gentlemen, you read a poor summary of the decision. The decision did not decide the copyright ownership issue, it said that the judge erred in not letting a type of evidence called parol evidence go before a jury for decision. Parol evidence would include all the testimony from people who remember being told Novell was selling Santa Cruz the copyrights. Novell also had testimony from folks involved in the deal who testified that the copyrights were not sold because Santa Cruz could not afford them. The judge ruled that the lack of a specific description of copyrights being sold was enough to rule that Novell did not sell the copyrights as a matter of law and not facts and, thus, did not present a triable issue. In short, the Judge relied on the written contract. Novell can appeal the appeal ruling.

Also the Bankruptcy Court assigned a trustee to manage SCO the day after the ruling and so McBride is no longer in charge of the company, let alone the litigation.

Good episode, I liked it very much! Looking forward to Haiku OS review! :)

When I get about 1 min in it freezes? Why does it do that? It works if I scan forward though. But GREAT SHOW

You can use Jolicloud if you ask for an invite.

Regarding the whole windows 7 sins thing - you guys are shills.

Yes, the FSF folks are lunatics and the windows-7 campaign reeks of anti-establishment bashing, and I'm not happy about the execution of it like any sane FL/OSS person. And as long as you bash them on the style, design and execution I'm with you 100% - but the facts they peresnt are all true and if you bash them on that then you are a bunch of shills.

Specifically regarding Bryan's WGA rant - while open source software only reads the configuration parts of your system (which software is installed and which isn't) and does not send out any local information (unless you consider which software is being downloaded to be local information, which every computer sends all the time) and specifically not any personally identifiable information (unless you consider IP to be personally identifying, see the previous argument) - WGA's EULA grants Microsoft explicit approval to download any and all files from your computer, including personally identifiable data as well as personal documents, without any notice.

I don't know what files WGA *actually* sends and neither do you - its proprietary software and you can't know (unlike Firefox which you can know and its easy to find out). Even if you think you know now, WGA get's updated a couple of times a month and you never know what the next version is going to do.

Shills for what exactly? I mean, we said WGA was awful and total butt, but because we also said it is not as big brother as they make it sound.. That makes us shills for..... Common sense?

-Chris

It makes perfect sense. I'm not sure shills for what you are exactly yet (let me get back to you on that, maybe OS/2?), but the fact that you pretend to be these free-software loving dudes but then you attack any aspect of free-software except the "no-cost" part. That is a shill in my dictionary.

Free Software (with capital F and S) is about philosophy, community and - yes, very much about - politics. You can't just have the software at no cost and not participate in the other aspects. (and "community" means working with the community to develop software as a means of freedom, not running a podcast and having many listeners).

It sounds to me that you guys are more and more about the "yay, we get software at no cost" and less and less about the social responsibility that is an integral part of FL/OSS. And Bryan - selling commercial software that runs on Linux (among other things) is also not shouldering the social responsibility. Good for you for making this, but releasing software which is not free (in either sense) is not being part of the community either.

Using Free Software tools and talking about Free Software does not automatically grant you bragging rights. Everytime you guys say "We" and mean the Free Software community, I cringe a little.

Go and look up the definition of 'shill' in a dictionary, dumbass. It doesn't just mean 'nasty person I disagree with'.

shill:
–noun
1. a person who poses as a customer in order to decoy others into participating, as at a gambling house, auction, confidence game, etc.
2. a person who publicizes or praises something or someone for reasons of self-interest, personal profit, or friendship or loyalty.

–verb (used without object)
3. to work as a shill: He shills for a large casino

How in any way does that support your point? Reaching much there big guy?
-Chris

This is a clarification for my use of the word "shill", as it seems people misunderstood me - in most uses it means someone who for political reasons promotes something regardless of its true value. I'm using it only slightly differently (and I didn't think people would take it so literally) - I meant that Chris and Bryan are disparaging the FSF for political reasons.

Anyway, this was my attempt at constructive criticism (with a bit of tongue in cheek, sorry for not adding smilies) and if it wasn't taken as such then I apologize. I have all the respect to Bryan and Chris and I only wanted to let them see that by attacking constructive elements of the community they do not improve the situation.

Dudes,
You are straying from the base. Maybe its where you want to be...but you'll have to walk a very tight line to keep the audience you have if you morph out into as amorphous a topic as "computers". Linux is why people tune in. That and your enthusiasm about it. It is what made the show work...it clicked with other peoples enthusiasm about it. Good Luck

Without the FSF, linux would have been crushed like everything else that has run up against M$. It is their unwillingness to compromise which has allowed the entire ecosystem to exist and to thrive.

I kind of miss Brian telling us what groups or systems run Linux, Any chance of you guys doing that again and maybe also throw in a few things that run the lesser known OSes out there?

I never thought that this kind of show exists.

computer keeps freezingI don't know why